RETURN I am home again. My house seems too large, too empty. In the silent hollow, I fill vases with flowers. Flowers for the kitchen window sill, Cornflowers, lavender, nasturtiums. Flowers for the bedroom, Geranium, roses, And some for the table. The old posy ring brims full, And in the stillness of the blooms, There travels birdsong without, And words within. Mandy Henderson (Written in Dec 2014, after a family visit in Timaru)
Welcome to Tea, Toast and Trivia.
Thank you for listening in.
I am your host Rebecca Budd, and I am looking forward to sharing this adventure with you.
Living in the reality of Covid-19, travel has been curtailed, internationally as well as domestically. While travel is coming back, I have found, over the past months, that travel is possible through the alchemy of technology.
Welcome to Tea Toast & Trivia – “The Virtual Journey” which will explore new horizons through the eyes of a friend. As Marcel Proust reminds me, “The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.”
Today, I am traveling to New Zealand to meet up with my blogger friend, Mandy Henderson. New Zealand is an island country in the southwestern Pacific Ocean. It consists of two main landmasses: the North Island and the South Island and over 700 smaller islands.
I invite you to put the kettle on and join the conversation on Tea Toast & Trivia. I have never been to New Zealand and am excited to be sharing this adventure with you.
Thank you, Mandy, for an amazing travel adventure. I felt I was New Zealand with you.
Dear listeners, thank you for joining Mandy and me on Tea Toast & Trivia. Homecoming is a place of belonging and well-being, where we are at one with ourselves and with the world around us. As Mandy wrote after a visit with family, “And in the stillness of the blooms, There travels birdsong without, And words within.”
Until next time we meet, keep safe wherever your adventures take you.

83 replies on “Season 4 Episode 26: Travelling to New Zealand with Mandy Henderson”
Thanks for introducing me to Mandy. I’ll be checking out a world map when I’m done listening. Forgetting to put a country on a map seems outrageous.
I know so little about New Zealand. This was fun. Mandy, you really are a person of the world. I like your poem and I appreciate knowing more about it and what it means to you.
Thank you both for a fun and interesting session.
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I am so pleased that you joined Mandy and me for afternoon tea in her garden. New Zealand is still on my bucket list, but with Mandy, I felt that I had actually slipped through my iPad screen and found myself on the other side of the world. Don did check out the maps! New Zealand was missing on quite a few! There is a wonderful tourism campaign that involves New Zealand and the map. Here is a link that I think you will enjoy.
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That’s a great campaign. I enjoyed your conversation, and I was surprised to find out that fact. How do you leave a country off the world map.
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Seriously? Missing from maps? That’s as bad as the people in the USA who think New Mexico is the same thing as Mexico — a foreign country…
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That was a great campaign video, very clever!
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Thank you for listening in Dan. I am happy that Rebecca encouraged me to share some personal stories from my part of the world. I was probably being a bit free with words to say NZ is ‘forgotten’ about on world maps. Here is a more nuanced article which explains why NZ is often chopped off world maps. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300328244/aotearoa-gets-left-off-world-maps–but-theres-a-simple-solution
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Don’t worry, Teagan. One can get NZ centered world maps. They are cool. https://www.prints.co.nz/page/fine-art/PROD/9813
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That does make sense, but still irritating, I suppose.
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Yes, sometimes it can be irritating, but I like to think of it as an opportunity to explore how different maps can alter our perspective of the world. https://theconversation.com/five-maps-that-will-change-how-you-see-the-world-74967
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I absolutely loved learning about New Zealand! I found the poem, ‘Return’ to be so enchanting. How lovely to bring the sense of ‘place’ from the outdoors, indoors, with flowers. 🙂
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I am delighted you listened in, Linda. Mandy has been an amazing support and encouragement to me over the years. She inspires life-affirming conversations. I remember the first time I read “Return” and now I keep the poem close by to use as a source of meditation. Many thanks for joining Mandy and me for afternoon tea in her garden.
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Thank you, Linda. Rebecca is a wonderful host and makes conversation easy. I wasn’t confident I could do this but with Rebecca’s encouragement I managed to tell some of my story. I hope I have given you a taste of New Zealand, as I know it.
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I’m so glad I spotted this post. You two are absolutely the cat’s pajamas! Hugs on the wing.
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Oh Teagan, many thanks for listening in! You always, always, always, make my day pure sunshine! Sending hugs on the wing.
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Oh I love pajamas. Being the cat’s pajamas is just the best! 🙂 🙂 🙂
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Many thanks, Mandy, for joining me on TTT. I love our conversations!
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I do, too. May there be more to come.
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I can hardly wait until we meet again!
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I don’t normally ‘do’ podcasts, Rebecca, but curiosity brought me here. It’s nice to hear a voice, and Mandy’s is so warm and friendly. Thank you for letting me share her world.
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I am delighted that you listened in, Johanna! Mandy is a wonderful friend who has been a support and inspiration to me over the past amongst 10 years. I agree – it is nice to hear a voice reach out across the WIFI. Many thanks for your heartwarming comments.
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Oh, how sweet you are. I started blogging so long ago. When I started I was too timid to even mention my real name but here I am now, thanks to Rebecca’s encouragement, letting you listen to my voice! It has taken me a long time to get this far but I am glad that I have. More adventures to come, I am sure.
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Eve (my wife) and I live in Austin,Texas. In 2015 and again in 2017 we had the great pleasure of staying with Mandy at her home in Christchurch. We’re hoping to return the favor one day.
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Fingers crossed, Steve and Eve. In September, Air NZ, is introducing its Auckland to New York direct flights so we will have even more options for flights to the US. .Interestingly the cheapest one way flight is just under $1300. That’s a good deal considering that a flight from here to Fiji seems to be around $500 to $600 at the moment. Thanks for listening in. I remember your visits with fondness.
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And don’t forget Air NZ’s existing non-stop Auckland-Houston flight that we took in 2017. We could pick you up in Houston and you’d get to visit with Linda, too.
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So tempting!
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Let’s hope you’ll yield to temptation.
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🙂 🙂 🙂
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I am delighted that you listened in, Steve. How wonderful to learn that you and Eve have traveled to New Zealand and stayed with Mandy. I can only imagine the great conversations you had in her garden. Many thanks for your comments and visit – very much appreciated.
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Eve listened to and enjoyed the whole conversation, too.
Who knew that a Texas nature photography blog would carry so far afield?
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We live exciting lives, Steve. So glad that we connected!!
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Steve and Eve are intrepid travellers. I think they have seen more of New Zealand than I have!
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I am glad that you introduced me to Steve and Eve!!! As Anne of Green Gables once said: “Kindred spirits are not so scarce as I used to think. It’s splendid to find out there are so many of them in the world.”
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Such a beautiful poem! Thank you, my dear Rebecca for introducing me to Mandy. I enjoyed your wonderful conversation.
Sending hugs across the ocean. xo
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Thank you for joining us, Marina. Greetings across the oceans from me.
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My pleasure, Mandy! xo
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I am delighted that you listened in and joined Mandy and me for afternoon tea in her garden. Isn’t it wonderful that friends, from opposite sides of the world, can meet for a great conversation via technology. Sending many hugs back to your with all speed.
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Oh, it is wonderful indeed!
More hugs back! 🤗
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I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation with Mandy. It was wonderful to hear her voice. I had no idea she was such a world traveller! I particularly enjoyed the story of how her ancestors emigrated from England. There is still so much I have to learn about New Zealand!
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Lovely to have your company, Liz. I, too, still have so much to learn about New Zealand. And there is still so much of the country I want to explore. Yes, I was once a world traveller. I think I made my first international trip when I was about a year old. When I came to live (again) in New Zealand in 1999, my rate of travel decreased substantially. Most of my post 1999 trips were to Queensland, Australia, to help care for my parents who lived there with my sister. In 2019 I went to Fiji for my nephew’s wedding but since then I have been grounded because of the pandemic. I am not in a rush to travel again but there are a few places I dream about visiting eg my great grandmother’s home in Clackmannan, Scotland. I may get there. I may not. 🙂
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There are so many places around the world I would like to visit, but I’ve developed such an aversion to airplane travel, I’ll have to be content with armchair travel through books, blogs, and podcasts.
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I share you concern about air travel, Liz. If we were meant to fly, we would have wings!! Books, blogs and podcasts send us around the world and bring us safe home with no jet lag!!!
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It’s the germs on airplanes that put the kibosh on it for me.
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You can be a companion in air travel aversion with my daughter. 🙂
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🙂
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Let me know when you are heading to Clackmannan – we will join you there!
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Edinburgh Liz will be sure to join us too. 🙂
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Wouldn’t that be wonderful!!!
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Many thanks for joining Mandy and me for afternoon tea in her garden. How exciting to travel to Botswana to get married! I am looking forward to hearing more about Mandy’s adventures. I felt that I had slipped through the iPad screen, as if were a magic portal, and ended up on the other side of the world.
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You’re welcome, Rebecca! I look forward to hearing more about Mandy’s adventures as well.
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It was a wedding like no other! 🙂 And it certainly wasn’t like this famous wedding in any way except that we, too, were married by a District Commissioner. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/10/newsid_4089000/4089030.stm
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Thank you, Rebecca and Mandy, for this absolutely wonderful conversation! I wish I could adequately describe my joy hearing more about this wonderful place. I heard about New Zealand very early in my life. My Aunt and her husband in their world travels visited New Zealand when I was about eight years old. Of course, I do not remember much of their description, but have never forgotten her verry positive story. Then, my husband was in the area just at the last of the Second World War and helped with what they called the “Clean Up”‘, His description, of the area, even at that sad time, was very positive! I am not able to write about all that I enjoyed, but I want to mention KIWI. I do not know if that is the correct spelling, but we enjoyed this fruit in Brazil, one of the very delicious tropical delights!! And, I could go on! ! But, I want you to know that I really look forward to your continued story.
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Thank you, Frances. I am so glad you joined us. From your comment it seems that we can look forward to many more stories from you; the world travelling aunt, kiwifruit in Brazil, and your husband’s WW2 service, to name just a few of them. I think it was my father’s WW2 service in the Solomons which piqued his interest in the Pacific, as well as a trip his father did to Fiji prior to WW2. My father sometimes spoke of wanting to visit the Solomons again but that didn’t happen. Perhaps that was for the best. He may have found it quite hard going back. Later in life he would become quite tearful talking about the men he knew ( and also those he didn’t know personally ) who weren’t lucky enough to come home again like he did.
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My husband had a positive experience, actually, but he never had the desire to go back. He did not even want to visit any of the exciting Islands on the way there or in the area.
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That is sometimes the way. I have been to places which I have enjoyed but I don’t need, or want, to return to them. It’s like a kind of been there, done that attitude.
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I knew that you would enjoy afternoon tea with Mandy. Isn’t it amazing that we can connect with Mandy even through we are on opposite sides of the Pacific Ocean. I remember something from a long-ago conversation that that Aunt Violet and Uncle Lonny visited New Zealand to meet up with family. It is possible that Mandy is living close to our relatives.
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That could be, but I have no contact with them and I am sorry for that, but I don’t have a name or address of any who could help me!
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Perhaps their whereabouts will remain one of life’s mysteries. Not all mysteries need to be solved. 🙂
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How very well said, Mandy. Without mysteries, where would we be!!!
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Hi Rebecca, thank you for this introduction to Mandy, it is lovely to listen to her talking about New Zealand. My family visited Auckland and Whakarewarewa Thermal Valley, Rotorua. We were there because my oldest son was representing South Africa in the Kid’s Literature Quiz which originates from Auckland. We did get to see a Kiwi bird and also to eat the fruit which the New Zealanders eat with the skin on (we were surprised). I loved the Buried Village at Te Wairoa so much that I even wrote a short story about it called The Warning which is in an anthology called Wings & Fire compiled by Dan Alatorre. It was all about the eruption of the Mount Tarawera and the destruction of the Pink and White Terraces and the village. The story uses real people and Guide Sophia is a character. I had to do a fair amount of research in the Maori people and their culture for this story and it features a lot of Maori words and names of places. We were very impressed by the traditional stories, canoes, and traditional whare’s (I’m not sure about the plural for whare). Anyhow, it was splendid to hear Mandy speaking and remember this marvelous adventure. The Buried Village is one of the most poignant and memorable places I have visited on my travels.
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I am delighted that you joined Mandy and me for afternoon tea in Mandy’s garden. You have the best travel and research adventures, Robbie. I would love to travel to New Zealand on day – still on my bucket list. I found Wings & Fire by Dan Alatorre. Thank you for the recommendation.
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I hope you like it, Rebecca. I had three stories in that book and one was about the farm murders in South Africa. I toned it down from the real story but some readers were horrified and thought it was unnecessarily violent. I was actually sending a message about the horror of those attacks, but you may prefer to skip it.
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Thank you, Robbie, for joining the conversation. As a Kiwi I can say that not all of us eat the skin of the kiwifruit. In fact I was quite astounded to learn, only recently, that some of us do. Last month, in the interests of citizen science I tried to eat the skin. I will not be repeating the experiment even though the skin is supposed to be packed with nutrients. How lovely that you have written a story about the Buried Village. With your research and your writing you will know more about that part of New Zealand than I do. The last time I was in that area (Rotorua) I was about 8. My clearest memory is one of worrying that I might fall into a thermal pool. I hope your son enjoyed the quiz.
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Hi Mandy, my son and his friends loved their visit. We visited some great places during our time in Auckland including Waiheke island, Hobbiton, and Scott’s Cabin which has been moved to the aquarium. We also visited two fabulous museums to see the local artwork and historical memorabilia of the Māoris and the European people. We couldn’t go to the South Island sadly, we didn’t have enough time. You should visit Rotorua one day, it is incredible around there and such small cows.
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You had a wonderful tour around. I need to get busy!
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PS interesting about the Kiwi skins, maybe the locals were just teasing the foreigners 😉
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Maybe but people do eat the skins, particularly the skins of the golden kiwi. In fact Zespri has a whole section on eating the skins of kiwifruit. https://www.zespri.com/en-US/blogdetail/can-i-eat-the-skin-of-kiwifruit#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20can%20eat%20the,free%2C%20smooth%2C%20hairless%20skin.
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Thanks for this link
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Wonderful conversation, Rebecca and Mandy! Great to learn so much about New Zealand — its history, the Maori, the welcome current prominence of women in government, and more. I can’t imagine a better “spokesperson” for New Zealand than you, Mandy, and it’s also impressive how many other countries you’ve lived in.
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I am delighted that you joined Mandy and me in Mandy’s garden. We have had a wonderful time together with all the friends that dropped by for a chat. New Zealand is a remarkable country. What I would love to discuss next with Mandy is all of the writers that came from New Zealand. I know Katherine Mansfield, which Mandy introduced to me several years ago, but I have found names such as Ngaio Marsh, Keri Hulme, Margaret Mahy, to name a few.
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I will have to get busy, Rebecca. Margaret Mahy and Ngaio Marsh are familiar names in Christchurch. Both lived here. The main children’s playground in the city centre is named after Margaret Mahy. Other well-known NZ writers are Lynley Dodd and Joy Cowley.
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I would LOVE to have a conversation about New Zealand writers. Would you be able to recommend a book that I will read and then come back for another conversation. This is exciting!!!
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I will put on my thinking hat and get back to you.
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Wonderful!!
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You are very kind, Dave. I tend to be enthusiastic about wherever I live, or, at the very least, I try to focus on the good things I see. One of the biggest surprises of my life was how much I enjoyed the US ( mainly east coast ). I had never had even the smallest desire to visit the US but ‘fate’ (or employers) sent me there 5 times. All 5 times were wonderful.
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While living in Hawaii–I met a lot of people from New Zealand, and I had the opportunity to learn about the Maori culture, especially music and dance.
I have never been to New Zealand, but I hear it is a beautiful place.
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I have never been to New Zealand either, except through a virtual connection with Mandy and of course, the LOTR movies with Frodo and Samwise. Travel is coming back but very slowly so I am looking for ways to take a virtual. Let me know if you would like to have me travel to your side of the world via TTT.
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Ok, I’m ready to move to New Zealand! Thanks for sharing another great interview, Rebecca!
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I am coming with you Tiffany!! We would have the best time with Mandy. When I view her garden via photos, I envision an artist – that would be you. Sending hugs!
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Incredible post and captivating poem Rebecca, I am so glad that I stumbled upon your post.
Simply stunning sceneries, instantly put a spell on me with breathtaking beauty of the place.
This also reminds me of an incredible journey I took with my wife in a small island nation called ‘Sri Lanka’ in South Asia in the beginning of this year.
Trust me when i say this, it was truly the ‘pearl of Asia’ mind blowing wild life, culture, people, food and unspoiled destinations it was purely a one for the memory vaults for us. I made a post from my journal entries on the journey and you are more than welcome to have a look through here, https://wordpress.com/post/sachsattic.wordpress.com/362
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Thank you for listening in and for your informative comments. I look forward to following your blog.
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